If the Father were the same as Jehovah, He would not reveal himself face to face with some men, giving verbal instructions to many and even having a meal with Abraham the patriarch (Genesis 17:1; 18:1-8; 26:2; 48:3; Exodus 24:10-11; 33:11-23), because the apostle John confirms that God has never been seen by anyone, whether face on, from the back or from any other angle! (John 5:37; 1 John 4:12)

    John 5:37... “You have never heard his voice nor seen his form”. But Moses heard Jehovah and saw his back (God has “back”?), as Exodus 33:23. Also Exodus 33:11 says that Jehovah spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend.

    Exodus 24:9 to 11 says that not only Moses saw the “god of Israel”, but also Aaron, Nadab, Abihu and the seventy elders of Israel. They saw Jehovah and they ate and drank together!

    The “full glory” of the Father was manifested only by the Son, as you can read in John 1:17... “No-one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father’s side, has made him known”.



If the Father were the same as Jehovah...



    If the Father were the same as Jehovah, He would not adopt the philosophy of revenge based on “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth” (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:21) because Jesus brought the teachings of “turning the other cheek” and “love your enemies; pray for them that persecute you” (Matthew 5:39 and 44).

    Peter was still permeated with the Pharisee’s doctrine based in the ritualistic precepts from OT when he asked to Jesus: ‘Master, how many times shall I forgive my brother, when he sins against me? Up to seven?’ and Jesus answered: ‘I TELL YOU, not seven times, but seventy-seven times’ (Matthew 18:21 and 22).

    Jesus said also in Luke 17:3… “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, ‘I repent’, forgive him”.

    Thus, Jesus provided a new dimension to the obsolete law from OT. He didn’t accept the “eye for eye, tooth for tooth” taught by Jehovah and proposed the “second mile” way (Matthew 5:41).

    If the Father were the same as Jehovah
, He would not change his mind like Jehovah that relented faced with the claim of Moses and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened (Exodus 32:14). Before that, he said to Moses: “leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation” (Exodus 32:9). But the true God does not change like “shifting shadows” (James 1:17).

Jephthah's daughter

    If “Jehovah relented” in Exodus 32:14, as some theologians say, why didn’t he also relented by the plea of a not guilty virgin lady (Judges 11:37), because of his father’s vow to Jehovah?

    Jehovah didn't cut out the lady's sacrifice by her own father (Judges 11:30 to 38), because he had vowed to sacrifice whatever comes out of the door of his house to meet him in the event of a triumph against the Ammonites

    Is it reasonable the daughter to pay for the imprudence of his father? Was Jehovah not interested on avoid the child’s sacrifice or couldn’t he stop Jephthah to make that?

    Why didn’t he provide a ram’s sacrifice (Genesis 22:13) as he did with Abraham, as he knew Jephthah's loyalty concerning to Isaac?


    If the Father were the same as Jehovah
, He would not allow his anger to burn like Jehovah whose anger burned against Israel, inciting David against them (2 Samuel 24:1) because the true God is patient with us, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

    In NT, punishment to those who do not repent will be in the future, whereas in the OT punishments occurred immediately after sins, in spite of “repent” of sinners like Esau (Hebrews 12:17).

    If the Father were the same as Jehovah, He would not send a liar spirit like Jehovah did (1 Kings 22:17 to 23; 2 Chronicles 18:21 to 22), because no lie comes from the truth (1 John 2:21). Likewise, in 1 Samuel 18:10 and 19:9 it is written that the evil spirit which tormented Saul also came from Jehovah.

    In 1 Kings 22:22 it is written that Jehovah put a lying spirit in the mouth of the prophets. That fact is confirmed in 2 Chronicles 18:20, in wich Jehovah said he himself would be that lying spirit.

    In respect of TRUTH, Jesus said: "I am the way, the TRUTH and the life" (John 14:6), thus there is no liar in Him. He said also that the devil is the father of LIAR and that there is no truth in him, so when he lies, he speaks his native language (John 8:44).

    Which agreement is there between liar and truth? A true God can't allow any kind of liar.

    We read in John 1:17 that the law was given through Moses, but grace and TRUTH came through Jesus Christ. If the truth came exclusively through Jesus Christ, then Jehovah teaches through the law a not genuine and complete truth.

    If the Father were the same as Jehovah, He would not kill anyone, even by sword or by burning in the fire (like Leviticus 20:14), or by hanging, (like 2 Samuel 21:5, 9 and 14), because those things reveal a violent temperament, inexistent on Father in the NT. The Son of God brought true forgiveness and opportunity to the earnest repentance, as He said to the woman caught in adultery: “Go now and leave your life of sin” (John 8:11).

    Jehovah's punishments of the sinners were often against the descendence, which were innocent from their parents sins (Exodus 20:5; 34:7; Numbers 16:27-50; Deuteronomy 3:6-7; 1 Samuel 15:1-3; Isaiah 14:21).

    Jehovah forgave David for his adultery with Bathsheeba but killed the baby that was born. He struck the innocent child with a mortal disease (2 Samuel 12:15 to 18), even after David’s repentance and fasting. There is no love and compassion in a criminal abortion! There is no correction or education in a premeditated murder.

    On the other hand the true God Father demonstrates his own love giving his one and only Son’s life for all who are still sinners (Romans 5:8).

    If the Father were the same as Jehovah, He would not approve slavery, as Jehovah did, for he said: “Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly” (Leviticus 25:44 to 46).

   Indeed, slavery is a barbarous custom, adopted only by tyrant dictators and criticized by the most of population in the whole world. The universal declaration of human rights condemns hotly the slavery approved by Jehovah in the Old Testament.

    However, Jesus the Son of the true God Father came to bring freedom to all creatures: either spiritual or physical slaves.

    The worst kind of slavery is spiritual, as it is written: “Everyone who sins is a slave to sin” (John 8:34). But Jesus releases those who believe in Him, for He said: “If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed” (John 8:36) and also: “You will know the truth and the truth will set you free” (John 8:32).

    If the Father were the same as Jehovah, He would not blind people's eyes as Isaiah 6:10 says. Also in 2 Corinthians 4:4 it is written: “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God”.

On the other hand, Jesus came to heal these “blind” and to show them the way to salvation from the Father, as He said in John 9:39... “I have come into this world, so that the blind (spiritually) will see and those who see (physically) will become blind (spiritually).

    If the Father were the same as Jehovah
, He would not accept the burnt sacrifice of people (including children!) like Jehovah did (Deuteronomy 13:15 and 16), because the only sacrifice accepted by the true God is the spiritual worship of a living and voluntary sacrifice according to Romans 12:1.


    As for sacrifices, it is written In Exodus 20:24 that Jehovah ordered to the Israelites: “Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honoured, I will come to you and bless you”.

    Also in Isaiah 43:23 Jehovah said: “You have not brought me sheep for burnt offerings, nor honoured me with your sacrifices”. Here Jehovah is plaintiff because the people of Israel were not bringing him the animals sacrifices required in his law.

    In spite of having clearly ordered the burnt offerings, Jehovah said in Jeremiah 7:22 that he had never ordered such sacrifices! So says the text: “Go ahead, add your burnt offerings to your other sacrifices and eat the meat yourselves. For when I brought your forefathers out of Egypt and spoke to them, I did not just give them commands about burnt offerings and sacrifices”.

    Therefore Jehovah contradicted himself again and revealed all the inconsistence of his law.

In the NT, sacrifice of animals were abolished, because they have no utility, since Jesus offered His own body and blood as an only, sufficient and eternal sacrifice. Hebrews 10:6 registers the words of Jesus about the true God: “With burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased”.

    The sacrifices for with God Father is truly pleased are related in Hebrews 13:15… “Let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise – the fruit of lips that confess His name and not forgiving to do good and to share with others”. 

    The conclusion is
: Jehovah is not the same as the God Father because each one of them is pleased with a different kind of sacrifice.


What did early Gnostics think about Jehovah?

    During 2nd and 3rd centuries gnostics teached a dualism of gods - an evil and a good god - and refused to identify the God of the New Testament, the father of Jesus, with the god of the Old Testament. They saw Jehovah as the Demiurge (Cosmocrator), who was responsible for the creation of the despised material world and was wholly alien to the supreme God of goodness.

    The gnostic Marcion assumed the existence of two gods from the antithesis between things visible and things invisible. Like other gnostics, Marcion was persecuted by the clergy and considered heretical. His theology is only made known through the claims of Irineus and other primitive theologians who faced him.

    Gnostics generally rejected the moral commandments of the Old Testament, regarding them as a part of the evil Demiurge's effort to mislead humanity, but they mistook by introducing heresies about Christ's nature and resurrection. They also wrote apocryphal Gospels and omitted part of biblical literature.



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